EPI 266: How To Get Rid Of Your Pain Without Surgery Or Medication. With World's Leading Pain Expert & Author of "Unlearn Your Pain" Dr. Howard Schubiner

Show notes:

(0:00) Intro

(1:37) How Dr. Howard Schubiner discovered Dr. John Sarno’s mind-body approach

(4:42) The five-step approach to understanding chronic pain

(5:43) Why abnormal MRIs may not explain back and neck pain

(10:10) The pain, fear, pain cycle and how the brain creates pain

(15:11) Conditions that may involve neuroplastic symptoms

(20:30) Research on unnecessary back surgery and Pain Reprocessing Therapy

(22:13) Three major types of stress that can trigger symptoms

(26:50) How beliefs, placebo, and nocebo effects influence the body

(29:33) Signs that chronic pain may be neuroplastic

(34:21) Where to find trained neuroplastic pain practitioners

(37:51) Pain Reprocessing Therapy and emotional healing

(42:09) A surprising post-concussion recovery story

(46:14) Resources for learning more about neuroplastic pain

(48:04) Outro

Who is Dr. Howard Schubiner?

Dr. Howard Schubiner is a physician, researcher, author, and internationally recognized expert in chronic pain and mind-body medicine. He is board-certified in internal medicine and pediatrics and directs the Mind-Body Center of Providence in Southfield, Michigan. He is a Clinical Professor at Michigan State University College of Human Medicine and has authored more than 100 scientific publications. Dr. Schubiner has played a major role in developing and researching treatments for neuroplastic pain, including Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy and Pain Reprocessing Therapy. His newly expanded book, Unlearn Your Pain: The Science of Recovering from Chronic Pain, Fatigue, Anxiety, and Depression, was published by The Open Field/Penguin Random House in May 2026. He is also a co-founder of the Association for the Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms and continues to teach clinicians and patients around the world.

Connect with Dr. Howard

Website: https://unlearnyourpain.com/

Nonprofit Oganization: https://neuroplastic.org/

Grab a copy: Unlearn Your Pain

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